. >> "time" magazine cnn political analyst, mark halperin, and former chairman of the republican national committee and commentator for nbc news and news analysts for npr, cokie rockets. you're wearing purple. >> i am. i am wearing purple and gold and beads i left in the makeup room. i'll bring them later. >> i like the beads. >> being a good catholic from norms, you can talk about it. >> i speak pope. >> and your mom was ambassador to the vatican in the '90s. that ain't nothing. >> no. it was quite fabulous. we loved it. got to go to rome all the time. i got to meet the pope then john paul the 2nd. then what happened happened and my mother found herself representing bill clinton to the pope. >> how exciting for her. >> it was a challenge. >> i guess it was. >> e.j. this morning quotes somebody who says the most noted earnize i earnizing -- modernizing thing this pope did was to retire, get out of the way. could it be at this modern age a pope just can't afford to be seen frail and weakened in the 24/7 news cycle? are we moving beyond the days? >> i don't think that's necessarily true. jo